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03/06/2023 01:30 PM Senate JUDICIARY

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*+ SB 66 CRIME OF SEX/HUMAN TRAFFICKING TELECONFERENCED
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                    ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                  
              SENATE JUDICIARY STANDING COMMITTEE                                                                             
                         March 6, 2023                                                                                          
                           1:31 p.m.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Senator Matt Claman, Chair                                                                                                      
Senator Jesse Kiehl, Vice Chair                                                                                                 
Senator James Kaufman                                                                                                           
Senator Cathy Giessel                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Senator Löki Tobin                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
SENATE BILL NO. 80                                                                                                              
"An Act  making corrective amendments  to the Alaska  Statutes as                                                               
recommended  by the  revisor of  statutes; and  providing for  an                                                               
effective date."                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     - MOVED SB 80 OUT OF COMMITTEE                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
SENATE BILL NO. 66                                                                                                              
"An Act  relating to sex  trafficking; establishing the  crime of                                                               
patron of a  victim of sex trafficking; relating to  the crime of                                                               
human   trafficking;  relating   to  prostitution;   relating  to                                                               
sentencing  for  sex  trafficking,  patron of  a  victim  of  sex                                                               
trafficking, and human trafficking;  establishing the process for                                                               
vacating judgments  for certain  convictions of  prostitution and                                                               
misconduct  involving a  controlled  substance;  relating to  the                                                               
Council  on Domestic  Violence and  Sexual  Assault; relating  to                                                               
permanent   fund   dividends   for  certain   individuals   whose                                                               
convictions are vacated; and providing for an effective date."                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     - HEARD & HELD                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
PREVIOUS COMMITTEE ACTION                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
BILL: SB  80                                                                                                                  
SHORT TITLE: 2023 REVISOR'S BILL                                                                                                
SPONSOR(s): RULES BY REQUEST OF LEGISLATIVE COUNCIL                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
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03/01/23       (S)       Heard & Held                                                                                           
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BILL: SB  66                                                                                                                  
SHORT TITLE: CRIME OF SEX/HUMAN TRAFFICKING                                                                                     
SPONSOR(s): RULES BY REQUEST OF THE GOVERNOR                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
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02/08/23       (S)       JUD, FIN                                                                                               
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WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR ELVI GRAY-JACKSON, District D                                                                                           
Alaska State Legislature                                                                                                        
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT: Sponsor of SB 80                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
ANGIE KEMP, Director                                                                                                            
Criminal Division                                                                                                               
Department of Law                                                                                                               
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT: Introduced SB 66 on behalf of the                                                                         
administration.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
KACI SCHROEDER, Assistant Attorney General                                                                                      
Legal Services Section                                                                                                          
Criminal Division                                                                                                               
Department of Law                                                                                                               
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT: Presented the sectional analysis for SB 66                                                                
on behalf of the administration.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
AMBER NICKERSON, Representing self                                                                                              
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT: Testified in opposition to SB 66.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
KATIE BOTZ, representing self                                                                                                   
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT: Testified in support of SB 66.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
TERRA BURNS, representing self                                                                                                  
Community United for Safety and Protections                                                                                     
Fairbanks, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT: Testified in opposition to SB 66.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MAXINE DOOGAN, representing self                                                                                                
Community United for Safety and Protection                                                                                      
Fairbanks, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT: Testified in opposition to SB 66.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
BELLA ROBINSON, Member                                                                                                          
Coyote Rhode Island                                                                                                             
Rhode Island                                                                                                                    
POSITION STATEMENT: Testified in opposition to SB 66.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
ACTION NARRATIVE                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
1:31:09 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR MATT CLAMAN called the  Senate Judiciary Standing Committee                                                             
meeting to order  at 1:31 p.m. Present at the  call to order were                                                               
Senators Kiehl, Kaufman, Giessel, Tobin and Chair Claman.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
                    SB  80-2023 REVISOR'S BILL                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
1:31:52 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR CLAMAN  announced the consideration  of SENATE BILL  NO. 80                                                               
"An Act  making corrective amendments  to the Alaska  Statutes as                                                               
recommended  by the  revisor of  statutes; and  providing for  an                                                               
effective date."                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
He asked for final comments from members of the committee.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR ELVI GRAY-JACKSON, District  D, Alaska State Legislature,                                                               
Juneau,  Alaska, sponsor  for SB  80, thanked  the committee  for                                                               
hearing the bill.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
1:32:29 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR KIEHL  moved to  report SB  80, version  33-LS0303/S from                                                               
committee  with individual  recommendations  and attached  fiscal                                                               
note.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR CLAMAN found  no objection and SB 80 was  reported from the                                                               
Senate Judiciary Standing Committee.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
              SB  66-CRIME OF SEX/HUMAN TRAFFICKING                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
1:32:55 PM  50                                                                                                                
CHAIR CLAMAN  announced the consideration  of SENATE BILL  NO. 66                                                               
"An Act  relating to sex  trafficking; establishing the  crime of                                                               
patron of a  victim of sex trafficking; relating to  the crime of                                                               
human   trafficking;  relating   to  prostitution;   relating  to                                                               
sentencing  for  sex  trafficking,  patron of  a  victim  of  sex                                                               
trafficking, and human trafficking;  establishing the process for                                                               
vacating judgments  for certain  convictions of  prostitution and                                                               
misconduct  involving a  controlled  substance;  relating to  the                                                               
Council  on Domestic  Violence and  Sexual  Assault; relating  to                                                               
permanent   fund   dividends   for  certain   individuals   whose                                                               
convictions are vacated; and providing for an effective date."                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
He asked Angie Kemp to introduce the bill.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
1:33:43 PM                                                                                                                    
ANGIE  KEMP,  Director,  Criminal Division,  Department  of  Law,                                                               
Juneau, Alaska introduced SB 66  on behalf of the administration.                                                               
She stated  that human  and sex trafficking  are forms  of modern                                                               
day slavery.  The term  slavery is  used universally  to describe                                                               
the  crimes. Human  and sex  trafficking involve  manipulation of                                                               
another human for financial and  personal gain, sometimes induced                                                               
by  force, fraud  and  coercion. The  human  and sex  trafficking                                                               
industry  earns  approximately  $32 billion  annually,  surpassed                                                               
only by the  illicit sale of controlled  substances. The industry                                                               
preys on vulnerable people including  children. The average age a                                                               
child  is pulled  into commercial  sex is  between 12  to 14  for                                                               
girls  and 11  to 13  for boys.  The estimated  number of  people                                                               
trafficked worldwide is 27 million.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MS. KEMP  continued that human  and sex trafficking  is insidious                                                               
conduct that often occurs in  private. She shared statistics from                                                               
the United States Department of  Justice (DOJ) stating the number                                                               
of  prosecutions in  the United  States increased  by 84  percent                                                               
from 2011 to 2020. The  number of referrals for human trafficking                                                               
offenses increased in the same time period by 61 percent.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR CLAMAN  asked if  the DOJ statistics  broke down  the state                                                               
versus federal prosecutions.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  KEMP  replied  that  the statistics  were  only  related  to                                                               
offenses referred and prosecuted by DOJ.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR CLAMAN observed that she  only described federal statistics                                                               
and no state data was collected.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MS. KEMP said that's correct.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR CLAMAN  asked the number  of federal prosecutions  of human                                                               
and  sex  trafficking   in  Alaska  for  the   study  period  she                                                               
described.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MS. KEMP  clarified that  the federal  prosecutions did  not pull                                                               
statistics from individual states.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  CLAMAN queried  the number  of  federal prosecutions  from                                                               
2011 to 2020 were brought in Alaska.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MS. KEMP replied that she  believed that the models provided that                                                               
level of detail and she  would provide that information after the                                                               
hearing.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  CLAMAN requested  the number  of  federal sex  trafficking                                                               
prosecutions in Alaska.  He asked for similar  statistics from 10                                                               
more  states for  comparison. He  specifically mentioned  Hawaii,                                                               
Wyoming, and rural states such as Nevada.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MS. KEMP agreed to provide the information.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
1:38:22 PM                                                                                                                    
MS.  KEMP  continued that  human  and  sex trafficking  does  not                                                               
happen  in a  vacuum.  The statistics  remain  consistent in  the                                                               
reporting.  Risk  factors  for sex  trafficking  victims  include                                                               
substance  use,  runaways,   homeless  youth,  unstable  housing,                                                               
mental   health  concerns   and   migration.   Risks  for   human                                                               
trafficking  include   migration,  economic   hardship,  unstable                                                               
housing, criminal  records and substance  abuse. She  pointed out                                                               
the overlap in risk factors. She  cited the Polaris Project as an                                                               
entity that  conducts research about trafficking  and maintains a                                                               
hotline  where  individuals  can  call to  report  sex  or  human                                                               
trafficking.  Much of  the  data presented  is  derived from  the                                                               
Polaris  Project. She  reported  that 42  percent of  trafficking                                                               
victims are  recruited by a  family member, while 39  percent are                                                               
recruited  by  intimate  partners.  The  legislation  before  the                                                               
committee  attempts to  address events  that lead  a person  into                                                               
human and sex trafficking.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
1:40:46 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR GIESSEL asked if the  risk factor "migration" referred to                                                               
immigrants.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MS. KEMP replied  yes, immigration migration is  a universal risk                                                               
factor  for both  categories of  trafficking. She  continued that                                                               
the  industry is  driven by  demand. One  legislative goal  is to                                                               
address  the  demand.  She  added  that  traffickers  assess  the                                                               
landscape when  targeting victims. During the  Covid-19 pandemic,                                                               
the  use of  social  media  as a  means  to identify  trafficking                                                               
victims  increased  by  22  percent.  She  pointed  out  separate                                                               
statistics  from Facebook  and Instagram  that show  increases of                                                               
125   percent   and    95   percent   respectively.   Trafficking                                                               
perpetrators are adapting with creative means to target victims.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MS. KEMP stated that the law  attempts to ensure  no safe passage                                                               
in Alaska" for sex trafficking.  The proposed legislation ensures                                                               
that  the  state  protects the  most  vulnerable  citizens  while                                                               
targeting  the   perpetrators  creating   the  demand.   The  law                                                               
reorganizes  the   crimes  allowing  more  effective   tools  for                                                               
prosecution  and  law enforcement.  She  provided  an example  of                                                               
classification changes  that lead to the  appropriate prosecution                                                               
of the most serious crimes.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR   CLAMAN  asked   which  section   of  criminal   code  sex                                                               
trafficking falls in currently.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MS. KEMP replied it's under AS 11.66.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR CLAMAN asked  about the differences between  Chapter 41 and                                                               
Chapter 66.  He wondered if the  change in chapters added  to the                                                               
seriousness of  the crimes or  if the classification  of felonies                                                               
was the reason for the change.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MS.  KEMP  replied   that  this  changes  the   penalty  for  sex                                                               
trafficking in  the first degree  and it reorganizes  the statute                                                               
and puts the  crimes in AS 11.41. The  change provides additional                                                               
protection  for   victims.  She  provided  an   example  from  AS                                                               
12.45.042, which offers protection  when a psychiatric evaluation                                                               
can be  ordered by the court.  These changes are possible  if the                                                               
trafficking is  categorized as  an AS  11.41 offense.  That's one                                                               
reason  for  the chapter  change.  She  added that  AS  12.45.046                                                               
allows for a guardian ad litem to  be appointed when a child is a                                                               
victim  of an  11.41  offense or  is  a witness  to  an AS  11.41                                                               
offense.  She continued  that  under AS  12.30.055,  there is  no                                                               
right to bail  in a petition to revoke probation  when the person                                                               
committed an AS 11.41 offense.  By recategorizing the crime as an                                                               
AS 11.41 offense, victims have  the benefit of all the additional                                                               
statutes calling out AS 11.41.  She highlighted a provision in AS                                                               
12.55.011 allowing a  victim to propose a  negotiated sentence to                                                               
the court. That wouldn't be  available under an AS 11.41 offense.                                                               
Under  AS 12.55.027(g),  an  offender  cannot receive  electronic                                                               
monitoring credit  toward their  sentence if  they are  serving a                                                               
sentence pursuant to an AS 11.41 offense.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
1:47:46 PM                                                                                                                    
MS.  KEMP  spoke  further  about  the  current  legislation.  She                                                               
mentioned  the  introduction  of   concrete  concepts  to  better                                                               
understand  recruitment. The  concepts  are  designed to  address                                                               
several risk factors  that increase the likelihood  that a person                                                               
will  become  the victim  of  sex  trafficking. She  provided  an                                                               
example of a  threat to destroy a persons   passport. The example                                                               
is  based on  reports from  the Polaris  house and  the DOJ.  She                                                               
noted  the concrete  distinction in  the legislation  between sex                                                               
trafficking  and human  trafficking.  Under  current law,  within                                                               
human trafficking there  is a cross reference  to sexual conduct.                                                               
The  proposed legislation  breaks  out sex  acts  from labor  and                                                               
adult entertainment. The bill increases  penalties for several of                                                               
the offenses and focuses on the demand side of trafficking.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
1:49:39 PM                                                                                                                    
MS. KEMP noted that the bill  does not increase penalties for the                                                               
average sex  worker. She explained that  the prostitution statute                                                               
remains a  B misdemeanor for  people who are  offering themselves                                                               
willingly. Penalties are increased  for the purchaser (John), but                                                               
not  for the  prostitute. The  legislation increases  the penalty                                                               
for people  convicted in  the last five  years. If  an individual                                                               
has been convicted twice in  the last five years of prostitution,                                                               
the potential penalty will be a C felony.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MS.  KEMP continued  that the  legislation addresses  the factors                                                               
that cause  the victim to be  at greater risk. She  spoke about a                                                               
provision in  the bill allowing a  person to have an  offence for                                                               
prostitution  and or  a controlled  substance removed  from their                                                               
record. The  provision is  an option  when evidence  is available                                                               
proving that  the person was a  victim of sex trafficking  at the                                                               
time they created the offense. The  person can appeal to have the                                                               
prostitution and or controlled  substance conviction removed from                                                               
their record.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
1:51:36 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  CLAMAN wondered  about a  hypothetical cocaine  possession                                                               
conviction from  10 years  ago. He wondered  if the  person could                                                               
sign an affidavit  reporting the use of cocaine  while the victim                                                               
of sex trafficking.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MS. KEMP  replied that  the court would  require the  standard of                                                               
proof  by  preponderance  of the  evidence.  She  clarified  that                                                               
preponderance  of the  evidence  is the  lowest  burden of  proof                                                               
available under  the law. She added  that the law allows  for the                                                               
prosecutor to  have an  opportunity to be  heard and  contest the                                                               
assertions  of  fact.  She  speculated  that  the  process  might                                                               
require more than  an affidavit. The criminal  rules will address                                                               
the burden.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
1:53:17 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR CLAMAN  hypothesized about  older drug  convictions lacking                                                               
circumstantial evidence. He pointed  to concerns raised in public                                                               
testimony.  His experience  with the  legislature showed  minimal                                                               
support  for  expungement.  He  found  it  interesting  that  the                                                               
administration was proposing an open-ended expungement.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MS.  KEMP responded  that  the committee  might  choose to  place                                                               
additional limitations  on the  expungement proposal.  The effort                                                               
is to help victims of human and sex trafficking.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  KIEHL  asked how  the  expungement  provision works.  He                                                               
wished  to  understand the  problem  the  provision is  meant  to                                                               
address.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
1:55:45 PM                                                                                                                    
MS.  KEMP referenced  research identifying  reasons  a person  is                                                               
recruited  into the  industry.  Examples  include withholding  or                                                               
threatening  to  withhold  the   use  of  controlled  substances.                                                               
Persons who  are dependent upon  a controlled substance  might be                                                               
further  manipulated and  sold. The  provision is  an attempt  to                                                               
help  people  motivated by  controlled  substances  to enter  the                                                               
business.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
1:56:46 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR KIEHL  appreciated the description.  He agreed  that some                                                               
people end up  in the sex and human trafficking  arena because of                                                               
drug addiction. He asked about  other criminal endeavors that are                                                               
closely linked to a person forced into trafficking.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MS. KEMP  replied that prostitution and  controlled substance use                                                               
are the two predominant risk factors.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
1:58:13 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR CLAMAN  agreed that  people with  drug addictions  can find                                                               
themselves  in compromised  situations leading  to human  and sex                                                               
trafficking. He  stressed that human  and sex  trafficking create                                                               
huge  problems  for society.  He  remarked  about the  notion  of                                                               
passing the bill with the  expungement opportunity. He viewed the                                                               
proposed  legislation as  an  administrative  policy decision  to                                                               
advocate for  expungement, which heretofore received  no support.                                                               
He raised  questions about the administration  bringing the issue                                                               
to the  committee. He asked  about the process in  the governors                                                                
office during the drafting of the legislation.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
2:00:05 PM                                                                                                                    
MS.  KEMP  replied  that  as   a  former  district  attorney  she                                                               
recognizes the  procedural challenges  ahead. She noted  that the                                                               
expungement is contingent  on proof that the person  was a victim                                                               
of  sex trafficking.  She  responded to  the  question about  the                                                               
origin of the provision. She  explained that she was not involved                                                               
in  conversations  catalyzing the  provisions  in  the bill.  She                                                               
opined  that there  were  good reasons  to  make the  expungement                                                               
opportunities available. She provided  a real-life example during                                                               
her time as  a prosecutor on cases related  to child pornography.                                                               
She  expounded  that  her job  entailed  verifying  evidence  and                                                               
reviewing the materials. She revealed  that the observations were                                                               
alarming and difficult to forget.  She found herself wondering if                                                               
it was  worse to see  the child victim crying  out in pain  or to                                                               
see  the   child  victim  engaging   in  the   practice.  Through                                                               
reconciliation  of  her  thoughts   and  feelings,  she  revisits                                                               
similar  provisions in  the law  that may  someday benefit  these                                                               
people.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MS.  KEMP  acknowledged  the  challenges   and  reasons  why  the                                                               
legislature might  choose to add  appropriate limitations  to the                                                               
bill. She  stated that the  balance was difficult to  strike. She                                                               
empathized with  the legislators working through  the process and                                                               
seeking a balance.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
2:05:02 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR CLAMAN  agreed that reviewing disturbing  child pornography                                                               
evidence  is   overwhelming.  He   asserted  that   the  proposed                                                               
legislation does provide  a balance. He understood  that a person                                                               
trafficked in  their childhood or early  adulthood has diminished                                                               
ability to speak up about  the abuse. The trafficking environment                                                               
encourages people  to serve their time,  only to be picked  up by                                                               
the traffickers when they are  released from prison. He reflected                                                               
on  the notion  that a  person  would come  forward twenty  years                                                               
following  a  conviction  to  seek   expungement  of  a  drug  or                                                               
prostitution  charge. He  agreed that  the system  should support                                                               
the person and expunge the  charges from their record with proper                                                               
evidence.  He wished  to avoid  expungement of  drug charges  for                                                               
anyone with a 20 year old drug conviction.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
2:07:03 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR GIESSEL wondered  about the burden of  proof allowing the                                                               
court to make  the decision about expungement  of prostitution or                                                               
controlled  substance   charges.  She  provided   a  hypothetical                                                               
example with  a person who  experienced sex trafficking  at eight                                                               
years old and sought expungement twenty years later.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR CLAMAN responded that an 8  year old with drug issues would                                                               
be  overseen in  juvenile  courts. He  explained  that the  issue                                                               
could get quite complicated.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR GIESSEL noted  that addiction does not  resolve leaving a                                                               
person introduced to controlled substances  at eight years old to                                                               
struggle with addiction.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
2:08:25 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  CLAMAN stated  that he  was raising  questions because  he                                                               
thought they were likely to arise.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MS. KEMP stated  that Ms. Schroeder was available  to provide the                                                               
sectional analysis.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR KIEHL  discussed his  time spent on  a similar  bill last                                                               
year. He wondered  about comparing the two  pieces of legislation                                                               
in committee.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR CLAMAN asked  if the legislation Senator  Kiehl referred to                                                               
was also introduced by the governor.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  KIEHL  replied yes,  the  bill  had a  Senate  Judiciary                                                               
Committee  Substitute.  He  wondered how  closely  this  proposal                                                               
reflects the work of the legislature last year.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR CLAMAN  was not able  to speak  in response to  last years                                                                
proposed  legislation,  but  he   suggested  asking  the  invited                                                               
testifiers.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
2:10:03 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR KIEHL  asked Ms. Kemp if  she was prepared to  answer the                                                               
query.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MS. KEMP deferred the question to her colleague, Ms. Schroeder.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
2:10:28 PM                                                                                                                    
KACI  SCHROEDER, Assistant  Attorney General,  Criminal Division,                                                               
Department  of Law,  Juneau, Alaska,  responded  to the  question                                                               
from  Senator Kiehl.  She stated  that  the proposed  legislation                                                               
resembles the  version that  passed out  of the  Senate Judiciary                                                               
Committee  last year.  She mentioned  notable changes  related to                                                               
the  sex   trafficking  statutes.  She  stated   that  the  prior                                                               
legislation  delineated sexual  contact  and sexual  penetration,                                                               
which  SB  66 does  not.  The  sections  were returned  to  their                                                               
introduced  language, which  provides the  major difference.  She                                                               
agreed that  the proposed legislation  closely resembles  that of                                                               
last year.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR CLAMAN  asked about the  difference between  sexual contact                                                               
and penetration as related to the newly introduced legislation.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MS.SCHROEDER  responded that  the  version that  left the  Senate                                                               
Judiciary  Standing  Committee last  year  had  higher levels  of                                                               
charges for people forced to  engage in sexual penetration versus                                                               
those forced to  engage in sexual contact. She stated  that SB 66                                                               
does  not  provide  the delineation  and  instead  considers  all                                                               
coercion to engage in commercial  sexual acts, as an unclassified                                                               
felony.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:12:30 PM                                                                                                                    
MS.SCHROEDER paraphrased the sectional analysis for SB 66.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
              SB 66 CRIME OF SEX/HUMAN TRAFFICKING                                                                              
                       SECTIONAL ANALYSIS                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     Section 1.  This section makes  a conforming  change to                                                                  
     reflect the amendments made in section 4.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     Section    2.   This    section   makes    confidential                                                                  
     communications between a victim  of sex trafficking and                                                                    
     a victim counselor privileged.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     Section 3.  This section makes  a conforming  change to                                                                  
     reflect the amendments made in section 4.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     Section 4.  This section enacts  a new  offense series:                                                                  
     sex  trafficking  in  the   first,  second,  and  third                                                                    
     degrees.  In  essence,  a  person   is  guilty  of  sex                                                                    
     trafficking  in  the  first  degree  (unclassified  sex                                                                    
     felony) if the  person (1) uses force or  the threat of                                                                    
     force  to  coerce someone  to  engage  in a  commercial                                                                    
     sexual acts; (2) traffics a  person under the age of 20                                                                    
     or  who  is  in  the person's  legal  custody;  or  (3)                                                                    
     manages,   supervises,  or   controls  a   prostitution                                                                    
     enterprise  or a  place of  prostitution.  A person  is                                                                    
     guilty of  sex trafficking in the  second degree (class                                                                    
     A sex felony)  if the person induces  or causes another                                                                    
     person  to  engage  in   commercial  sexual  acts.  Sex                                                                    
     trafficking in  the first and  second degrees  would be                                                                    
     sentenced  under  the  enhanced  penalties  for  sexual                                                                    
     felonies and  the person would be  required to register                                                                    
     as  a  sex   offender.  A  person  is   guilty  of  sex                                                                    
     trafficking in the third degree  if the person provides                                                                    
     resources  in  furtherance  of the  commission  of  sex                                                                    
     trafficking. Sex trafficking in the third degree is a                                                                      
     class B felony  if the value of  the resources provided                                                                    
     in  furtherance of  trafficking is  $200 or  more or  a                                                                    
     class C  felony if the  value of the resources  is less                                                                    
     than  $200.  Sex trafficking  in  the  third degree  is                                                                    
     sentenced as  a class B  or C sex  felony and is  not a                                                                    
     registerable sex offense. This  section also enacts the                                                                    
     new crime of  "patron of a victim  of sex trafficking."                                                                    
     A person  is guilty of  being a  patron of a  victim of                                                                    
     sex trafficking if they  solicit commercial sexual acts                                                                    
     with  reckless  disregard  that the  person,  they  are                                                                    
     soliciting is a  victim of sex trafficking,  or if they                                                                    
     solicit sexual acts from a  person under the age of 18.                                                                    
     If the person solicited is  under 18 years of age, this                                                                    
     offense will  be a  class B sex  felony. If  the person                                                                    
     solicited is an  adult, this offense will be  a class C                                                                    
     sex  felony. This  crime would  be sentenced  under the                                                                    
     enhanced penalties  for sexual felonies and  the person                                                                    
     would be required to register as a sex offender.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     Section  5.  This section  amends  the  crime of  human                                                                  
     trafficking in  the first degree to  be an unclassified                                                                    
     felony when  the person induces  or causes a  person to                                                                    
     engage in adult entertainment  or labor through the use                                                                    
     of force against the victim or if the victim is under                                                                      
     the age of 20.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     Section 6. This section  denotes that human trafficking                                                                  
     in the first degree is an unclassified felony.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     Section  7. This  section amends  human trafficking  in                                                                  
     the second  degree to include  situations in  which the                                                                    
     person induces  or causes another  person to  engage in                                                                    
     adult  entertainment  or  labor   by  (1)  exposing  or                                                                    
     threatening  to expose  confidential  information or  a                                                                    
     secret,  whether true  or false,  tending to  subject a                                                                    
     person   to   hatred,   contempt,  or   ridicule;   (2)                                                                    
     destroying,  concealing, or  threatening to  destroy or                                                                    
     conceal an actual or  purported passport or immigration                                                                    
     document or another  actual or purported identification                                                                    
     document  of any  person; (3)  threatening to  report a                                                                    
     person  to  a  government  agency for  the  purpose  of                                                                    
     arrest  or deportation;  (4) threatening  to collect  a                                                                    
     debt; (5) instilling in another  person a fear that the                                                                    
     actor  will withhold  from  any  person lodging,  food,                                                                    
     clothing, or  medication; (6) providing  or withholding                                                                    
     controlled   substances  from   the   person;  or   (7)                                                                    
     deceiving  the   victim.  Under  this   section,  human                                                                    
     trafficking in the second degree is a class A felony.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Section 8. This  section enacts the new  crime of human                                                                  
     trafficking in the third degree.  A person is guilty of                                                                    
     human trafficking  in the third degree  if they provide                                                                    
     resources  in furtherance  of human  trafficking. Human                                                                    
     trafficking in the third degree  is a class B felony if                                                                    
     the value of the resources is  $200 or more and a class                                                                    
     C felony  if the  value of the  resources is  less than                                                                    
     $200.   The   section   also   clarifies   that   human                                                                    
     trafficking   does   not   include   normal   caretaker                                                                    
     interactions with a minor (for  example, asking a child                                                                    
     to  shovel the  driveway  in exchange  for  an item  of                                                                    
     clothing etc.). The section  also clarifies current law                                                                    
     that  corroboration  of  a victim's  testimony  is  not                                                                    
     necessary. A jury  has the ability to  convict based on                                                                    
     a  victim's testimony  alone. This  language is  simply                                                                    
     relocated to  AS 11.41 along  with the rest of  the sex                                                                    
     trafficking  statutes.  The  section also  makes  clear                                                                    
     that  any   property  used  to  commit   sex  or  human                                                                    
     trafficking may be forfeited.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     Section  9. This  section clarifies  that the  crime of                                                                  
     coercion is only  to be used if the  sex trafficking or                                                                    
     human trafficking elements are not present.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Section 10.  This section is a  conforming change which                                                                  
     references  the new  sex  trafficking  statutes in  the                                                                    
     prostitution statute.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Section  11. This  section  increases  the penalty  for                                                                  
     being a "John" from a class  B misdemeanor to a class A                                                                    
     misdemeanor. Upon a third  conviction within five years                                                                    
     for being a "John", the  offense is again elevated to a                                                                    
     class C felony.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     Section 12.  This section  states that  if a  "John" is                                                                  
     convicted  under  the  class   C  felony  provision  in                                                                    
     section 11,  any property used  in order to  commit the                                                                    
     offense may be forfeited.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     Sections  13 and  14.  These  sections make  conforming                                                                  
     changes related to  the amendments made in  section 4 -                                                                    
     9.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     Section  15. This  section  adds  the definitions  that                                                                  
     apply  to   the  prostitution  statutes  and   the  sex                                                                    
     trafficking statutes to  the general definition statute                                                                    
     in Title 11 (AS 11.81.900).                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Section 16.  This section establishes that  there is no                                                                  
     statute of  limitations for  sex trafficking  and human                                                                    
     trafficking in  the first and second  degrees. However,                                                                    
     the statute  of limitations for sex  trafficking in the                                                                    
     third degree and human trafficking  in the third degree                                                                    
     is ten years.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     Section  17.  This  section  makes  conforming  changes                                                                  
     reflecting the amendments to  sex trafficking and human                                                                    
     trafficking.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     Section   18.    This   section    makes   confidential                                                                  
     communications between a victim  of sex trafficking and                                                                    
     a victim counselor privileged.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     Sections  19  -  21.  These  sections  make  conforming                                                                  
     changes  to  sex   trafficking  and  human  trafficking                                                                    
     references that appear in those statutes.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     Section  22.   This  section  establishes   that  human                                                                  
     trafficking,  as   an  unclassified  felony,   will  be                                                                    
     sentenced between 5 and 99 years.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Section 23.  This section  amends AS  12.55.125(i) (the                                                                  
     sex offense sentencing  statutes) incorporating the new                                                                    
     sex trafficking statutes and patron  of a victim of sex                                                                    
     trafficking statute.  This ensures that  these offenses                                                                    
     will  be subject  to  the  higher sentences  associated                                                                    
     with sex offenses. This section  also corrects an error                                                                    
     in  the citation  of unlawful  exploitation of  a minor                                                                    
     under  AS 11.41.455(c)(1)  and  indecent  viewing of  a                                                                    
     picture under AS 11.61.123.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Section 24. This  section establishes mandatory minimum                                                                  
     terms  of imprisonment  for  repeat  "Johns." Upon  the                                                                    
     second conviction  with five years, the  person will be                                                                    
     subject  to  a class  A  misdemeanor  with a  mandatory                                                                    
     minimum  of  72  hours  to  serve.  If  the  person  is                                                                    
     convicted three times within five  years, the person is                                                                    
     subject to the class C felony sentencing provisions.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     Section 25.  This section  makes conforming  changes to                                                                  
     the definition of "most  serious felony" reflecting the                                                                    
     new sex trafficking statutes.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     Section  26.  This  section adds  sex  trafficking  and                                                                  
     patron  of   a  victim   of  sex  trafficking   to  the                                                                    
     definition   of  "sexual   felony"  and   corrects  the                                                                    
     citation  to indecent  viewing of  a  picture under  AS                                                                    
     11.61.123.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     Section  27.   This  section   makes  changes   to  the                                                                  
     definition of "serious offense"  reflecting the new sex                                                                    
     trafficking and human trafficking statutes.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Section 28.  This section adds  sex trafficking  in the                                                                  
     first and second degrees and  patron of a victim of sex                                                                    
     trafficking to  the list of registerable  sex offenses.                                                                    
     This  section also  corrects the  citation to  indecent                                                                    
     viewing or production of a picture under AS 11.61.123.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Section 29. This section  establishes a process whereby                                                                  
     a  person who  has been  convicted of  prostitution can                                                                    
     get that  conviction or a conviction  for possession of                                                                    
     a  controlled substance  vacated  if they  are able  to                                                                    
     show that they were a  victim of sex trafficking at the                                                                    
     time   that  they   committed  the   offense.  If   the                                                                    
     conviction  is  vacated,  the   court  system  may  not                                                                    
     publish   records  relating   to   the  conviction   on                                                                    
     CourtView  nor  may  the Department  of  Public  Safety                                                                    
     release  that  information  as part  of  an  employment                                                                    
     background check.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Sections 30 - 32. These  sections add the prevention of                                                                  
     sex  trafficking to  the subjects  that the  Council on                                                                    
     Domestic  Violence and  Sexual Assault  should consider                                                                    
     and develop educational materials and programs for.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     Sections  33 and  34.  These  sections make  conforming                                                                  
     changes    to    the    limitations    on    privileged                                                                    
     communications and  add a victim of  sex trafficking to                                                                    
     the definition of "victim."                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Section   35.  This   section  adds   victims  of   sex                                                                  
     trafficking  to  the  list of  victims  whom  a  crisis                                                                    
     intervention  and  prevention  program is  designed  to                                                                    
     assist.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     Section   36.  This   section  adds   victims  of   sex                                                                  
     trafficking  to the  list of  victims  who can  receive                                                                    
     assistance from the Violent Crimes Compensation Board.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Section 37. This section allows  the public defender to                                                                  
     represent  an  indigent  person during  a  vacation  of                                                                    
     judgment proceeding.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     Sections  38 and  39.  These  sections make  conforming                                                                  
     changes  referencing  the  changes   made  to  the  sex                                                                    
     trafficking statutes.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Section 40.  This section  makes a  person who  has had                                                                  
     their conviction for  prostitution vacated eligible for                                                                    
     a permanent fund dividend.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     Section  41.  This  section  authorizes  administrative                                                                  
     subpoenas  for sex  trafficking in  the first,  second,                                                                    
     and third degrees.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     Sections  42  -  45.  These  sections  make  conforming                                                                  
     changes  referencing  the  changes   made  to  the  sex                                                                    
     trafficking statutes.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Section 46. This section is the repealer section.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     Section 47. This section  is the applicability section.                                                                  
     The  majority  of  this bill  will  apply  to  offenses                                                                    
     occurring on or after the effective date.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     Section  48.   This  section  makes  the   vacation  of                                                                  
     judgment sections  of the bill effective  on January 1,                                                                    
     2024.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Section  49. This  section makes  the remainder  of the                                                                  
     bill effective July 1, 2023.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
2:25:45 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR KAUFMAN asked how "inducement" was defined.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MS. SCHROEDER  explained that  the bill  specifies that  a person                                                               
must  induce or  cause an  individual to  engage in  a commercial                                                               
sexual act. The definition of  inducing or causing as they relate                                                               
to sex  trafficking is found  on Page 4  of the bill.  She stated                                                               
that Page 4 includes a list  of examples of inducing or causing a                                                               
person to  engage in  a commercial  sex act.  She added  that the                                                               
list was not exhaustive.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
2:27:34 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR CLAMAN  asked about moving  both sex trafficking  and human                                                               
trafficking  from Chapter  66 to  Chapter 41.  He wondered  about                                                               
changes to definitions or the basic structure of the bill.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MS. SCHROEDER  replied that the  human trafficking  statutes were                                                               
already located  in AS 11.41.  The sex trafficking  statutes were                                                               
indeed moved to  AS 11.41. The department  broadened the language                                                               
and  increased   penalties.  The  bill  adds   factors  that  are                                                               
currently not regularly considered by  courts, so she believes it                                                               
was  helpful to  have those  considerations defined  in statutes.                                                               
She   added  that   human  and   sex  trafficking   conduct  were                                                               
manipulative  and  insidious,  which led  the  administration  to                                                               
outline the factors and raise the penalties.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR CLAMAN asked Ms. Schroeder she  was referred to the list on                                                               
Page 4 when she spoke about factors.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MS. SCHROEDER replied in the affirmative.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  CLAMAN   understood  the   seven  factors  in   the  human                                                               
trafficking  provision. He  asked about  federal prosecutions  in                                                               
Alaska. He requested  statistics related to the  frequency of sex                                                               
and human  trafficking prosecutions in  Alaska over the  last ten                                                               
years.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
2:29:48 PM                                                                                                                    
MS.  KEMP   suggested  that  prosecutions   for  human   and  sex                                                               
trafficking  in Alaska  are infrequent  and typically  handled by                                                               
the  Office  of  Special  Prosecutions. She  added  that  federal                                                               
prosecution data is  unknown to her, but she  offered to research                                                               
and provide further information to the chair and committee.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR CLAMAN asked why state-level prosecutions were infrequent.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MS. KEMP  opined that the  lack of reporting leads  to infrequent                                                               
prosecution. Research shows  that victims do not  report human or                                                               
sex  trafficking.  She  spoke  about  challenges  in  immigration                                                               
scenarios where  language access  is barred. One  intervention is                                                               
to provide  increased access to  the court system for  victims of                                                               
trafficking.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
2:31:13 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR KIEHL pointed to the  definition of "adult entertainment"                                                               
on Page  11. He  noted that  the bill  that the  Senate Judiciary                                                               
Committee  passed  last year  referenced  Title  23. He  wondered                                                               
about substantive  differences between the two  bills in relation                                                               
to Title 23.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  SCHROEDER  replied  that  the change  was  made  last  year,                                                               
because  the  definition  of  adult  entertainment  in  Title  23                                                               
discusses actual or stimulated.  The administration chose another                                                               
definition that does not include the word actual.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
2:32:12 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR CLAMAN opened public testimony on SB 66.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
2:32:33 PM                                                                                                                    
AMBER NICKERSON,  representing self, Juneau, Alaska  testified in                                                               
opposition   to  SB   66.  She   stated   that  the   legislation                                                               
criminalizes  sex workers  and  clients.  She suggested  amending                                                               
Section 4  of AS 11.41 by  adding new sections to  read  manages,                                                               
supervises,  controls  or owns  either  alone  or with  others  a                                                               
prostitution enterprise  or a place  of prostitution.   She added                                                               
that  a  place of  prostitution  means  a  place where  a  person                                                               
engages in  commercial sex in return  for a fee. She  feared that                                                               
working indoors would become an  unclassified felony. Sex workers                                                               
would be charged  with unclassified felonies if they  own a place                                                               
of  prostitution.  She stated  that  working  in isolation  makes                                                               
prostitutes  vulnerable for  robbery, assault,  rape and  murder.                                                               
The  bill also  criminalizes  customers as  sex traffickers.  She                                                               
opined  that   clients  should  be  granted   the  same  immunity                                                               
protection as  sex workers including  the ability to  report when                                                               
they are victims or witnesses  to crimes such as sex trafficking.                                                               
Under  SB  66,  Alaska  uses  resources  and  funding  to  create                                                               
fictitious   prostitution   sting  operations   shaming   Alaskan                                                               
residents before they are found guilty.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:34:38 PM                                                                                                                    
KATIE BOTZ, self, Juneau, Alaska  testified in support SB 66. She                                                               
thanked the  administration for introducing the  bill despite the                                                               
challenging nature of the topic.  She stressed that passage of SB
66   was  vital   to  protecting   vulnerable  populations.   She                                                               
acknowledged  that   the  effort   was  introduced   in  previous                                                               
legislation. She stated that she  was a concerned constituent who                                                               
was  sexually  assaulted  as  a  child. She  found  it  vital  to                                                               
increase penalties for sex trafficking.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:37:12 PM                                                                                                                    
TERRA BURNS,  self, Community United for  Safety and Protections,                                                               
Fairbanks, Alaska, testified  in opposition to SB  66. She stated                                                               
that she  was trafficked as a  minor in Alaska and  she worked in                                                               
Alaska's  sex  industry  for  two   decades.  She  completed  her                                                               
graduate research  at the University  of Alaska Fairbanks  on the                                                               
lived  experiences  and  policy   recommendations  of  people  in                                                               
Alaska's sex trade.  She noted that she  attempted to participate                                                               
in task force  meetings when the bill was being  created. She was                                                               
denied  entry  to  the  public task  force  meetings,  which  she                                                               
believes violates the Alaska Open Meetings Act.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
2:38:49 PM                                                                                                                    
MAXINE DOOGAN, self, Community United  for Safety and Protection,                                                               
Fairbanks,  Alaska,  testified  in   opposition  to  SB  66.  She                                                               
informed  the committee  that she  was  a prostitute  of 30  plus                                                               
years and  she hoped to  work for 30  plus more. She  opposed the                                                               
legislation   because   it    recriminalizes   clients   as   sex                                                               
traffickers,  which she  finds  disrespectful and  inappropriate.                                                               
She stated  that the fiscal note  creates a slush fund  to arrest                                                               
sex  workers  and  clients  under   the  guise  of  rescuing  sex                                                               
trafficking  victims. She  opined that  police crackdowns  on sex                                                               
work do not reduce the  incidence of sex trafficking. She opposed                                                               
referring to her clients as Johns as the term is pejorative.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
2:41:22 PM                                                                                                                    
BELLA ROBINSON, Coyote RI, Rhode  Island, testified in opposition                                                               
to SB  66. She stated that  many sex workers and  sex trafficking                                                               
victims  are   more  afraid  of   the  police  than   of  violent                                                               
perpetrators.  She noted  that  clients of  sex  workers are  the                                                               
people  most likely  to encounter  sex trafficking  survivors but                                                               
recording  them might  mean criminal  charges. She  remarked that                                                               
trafficking  victims   are  arrested,  which  subjects   them  to                                                               
judgement  and the  traumatic arrest  and media  coverage subject                                                               
them to discrimination.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:44:04 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR CLAMAN closed public testimony on SB 66.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
2:44:48 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR KIEHL  noted that public  testimony indicated  that those                                                               
who purchase commercial  sex are criminalized if  they report sex                                                               
trafficking  that  they observed.  He  asked  how that  works  in                                                               
Section 10 of the bill, immunity for reporting.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MS. KEMP stated that clients  purchasing sex do not have separate                                                               
immunity, so  they can be  prosecuted if  they attempt to  file a                                                               
report under the current language.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
2:45:27 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  KIEHL stated  that  Section  10 appears  to  say that  a                                                               
person might not  be prosecuted under (a)(1)  of the prostitution                                                               
statute. He recalled that's buying sex.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MS. KEMP replied that (a)(1) applies to the person selling sex.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  KIEHL asked  about individuals  who weren't  trafficked,                                                               
being guilty of trafficking if  they collaborate. He asked for an                                                               
explanation of how those provisions work.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MS.  KEMP replied  that  the  issue with  subsection  (3) of  sex                                                               
trafficking  in the  first  degree is  the  requirement that  the                                                               
prosecution  proves the  prostitution enterprise.  A prostitution                                                               
enterprise  means  that  they  are  organized  to  render  sexual                                                               
conduct in  return for  a fee. The  definition of  sexual conduct                                                               
establishes  that  the  fee  cannot  be  shared  via  apportioned                                                               
spaces.  She provided  an example  where two  individuals selling                                                               
sex agree  to rent  a hotel  room; they  could not  be prosecuted                                                               
under  the theory  of a  prosecution enterprise.  In the  case of                                                               
prosecution,  it  cross  references  commercial  sexual  conduct,                                                               
which carves it out as a theory.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR KIEHL wished to make sure  that the carve-out was not too                                                               
broad.  He understood  that  if  a person  took  a  share of  the                                                               
revenue, then the charge would fall under the criminal act.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MS. KEMP  replied yes,  and the process  would be  different than                                                               
the shared apportioned space carve-out.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:50:03 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  CLAMAN asked  about paragraph  (3) under  AS 11.41.340  on                                                               
Page 3.  He recalled the  example stated in public  testimony was                                                               
one person  owns a two bedroom  apartment and rents a  spare room                                                               
to  another  prostitute.  He  asked if  the  apartment  owner  is                                                               
subject to  sex trafficking in  the first  degree as a  result of                                                               
owning the apartment and renting a room to another prostitute.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MS.  KEMP replied  no; the  scenario depicted  shared apportioned                                                               
spaces.  She  clarified  that one  person  renting  from  another                                                               
person without facts  to support any additional  payment does not                                                               
meet the definition of provider of a place of prostitution.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  CLAMAN asked  about evidence  that the  price charged  for                                                               
renting  the  apartment  reflects  payment to  the  roommate.  He                                                               
hypothesized that if  a room in a home routinely  costs $1000, it                                                               
might be suspicious if the rent was $2500 monthly.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MS. KEMP replied  that the language for commercial  sex acts does                                                               
not  include compensation  for apportioned  shared expenses.  She                                                               
pointed  to  Page   11  and  the  term    reasonable   under  the                                                               
circumstances. She offered hypothetically,  if one individual was                                                               
charged  $5000 for  a one-bedroom  apartment, a  prosecutor might                                                               
make  the argument  that the  rent was  unreasonable, which  does                                                               
meet the definition of commercial sexual act.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
2:52:56 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  CLAMAN   wondered  if  Ms.   Nancy  Meade   might  provide                                                               
statistics related  to frequency of federal  prosecutions for sex                                                               
trafficking in Alaska.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MS. KEMP  responded to the  concerns voiced in  public testimony.                                                               
She  referred  to the  opposition  letter  listing two  principal                                                               
concerns related to changes in  the criminal law. She stated that                                                               
the concern  related to  the patronage  of sex  trafficking would                                                               
unnecessarily  expose individuals  to  heightened penalties.  She                                                               
clarified that  the prostitution  statute under AS  11.66 remains                                                               
the same.  For the patronage  of victim sex  trafficking, several                                                               
aspects must be  proved prior to a criminal  charge. Evidence for                                                               
sex  trafficking involves  proof  that  the individual  knowingly                                                               
solicits  commercial sexual  acts with  reckless disregard  for a                                                               
person who is  engaging in the sexual act. She  supposed that the                                                               
public  testimony concerns  missed elements  that the  state must                                                               
show in  order to  meet that particular  statute. She  added that                                                               
the court  must prove  a mental state  related to  paragraphs (1)                                                               
and (2) under the patronage of victim sex trafficking.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
2:55:28 PM                                                                                                                    
There being  no further  business to  come before  the committee,                                                               
Chair Claman  adjourned the  Senate Judiciary  Standing Committee                                                               
meeting at 2:55 pm.                                                                                                             

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SB 80 Sponsor Statement version S 2.28.2023.pdf SJUD 3/1/2023 1:30:00 PM
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SB 66 Sectional Analysis version A 2.8.2023.pdf SJUD 3/6/2023 1:30:00 PM
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